Biden Associates Testify on the Influence Peddling of the President and his Family – JONATHAN TURLEY


Gigi,
This post will mostly be about YOU.
That is not because I wish to attack you rather than your positions
But because your post is about you not anything meaningful.

Lets clarify.
“accusations of being a paid troll”
If you are a paid troll the standards of the left are abysmal.
Regardless, you constantly accuse Turley and many many others of exactly that. TYurn about is fair game.

“of needing psychiatric help”
Probably, but I have no interest in your mental health.
And again you lob similar attacks on others – in what world do you think you are the only one entitled to lob personal insults

I do not know you, and have no reason to care about you.
You are just words on a page.
Regardless, your mental health is not your major weakness it is your inability to think critically or to weigh probabilities.
You beleive things that are either false or highly improbable, and you reject things that are either true or very likely true.

“of really being Dennis McIntyre,”
Doubt it, While Dennis shows similar poor critical thinking – his critical thinking is atleast 1 std dev better than yours.

Way too many here wish to engage this stupid game of trying to decide who is posting under multiple names.
I do not understand the attack. whether from the left or right.
And I do not understand why anyone would want to diminish their impact.

“of being a liar”
That is what we call people who repeat the same falsehoods over and over years after they had even tiny credibilty.
I do not like calling anyone a liar, but the alternative is that you are severely cognatively impared – take your pick.
Again turn about is fair play – you are constantly accusing others of being liars with no basis to do so.
Pot meet Kettle.

“My favorite insult is that I have vaignal odor”
Do not recall anyone saying that, and I have read most of your posts.
That said there are many posters here that lob irrelevant insults without any basis.
A few of them are even on the right.

“that’s the depth to which they stoop in lieu of offering counter argument or actual facts.”
I have attcked you repeatedly with actual facts and arguments – you ignore them.
Frankly, you are a disappointment to me. Most of those on the left here are a massive disappointment.
I WANT good arguments from your.

We test ideas, principles facts, in the crucible of intellectual confrontation.
I am very good at identifying the flaws in my own arguments and fixing them.
But no one can see everything about their own arguments.
I am not sure that I am right about something solely because of my confidence in my own intellect.
The reverse is true – my confidence in my own intellect stems from the inability of the best of the best on the left to knock down my arguments.

You and Dennis are unfortunately not even close to the mediocrest of the left.
Debating you does not test my arguments.

“Trump fans (which is really what they are)”
Some people are fans. But Trump is over 50% in several polls – maybe 10-15% of the vote is Trump no matter what.
They – just like you are immune to anything. That is present on all sides. It is not unique to Trump.

“are immune to the truth and immune to reality”
Some are. Again also true of the left. And absolutely True of you.
Pot meet kettle.

“partly because of the daily lies and disinformation pumped out by pro-Trump media they tune to for daily affirmation,”
This is an amazing claim – given the MASSIVE disinformation propagated constantly by you and the left.

” that constantly accuses mainstream media of lying, and distorts the facts about Trump’s bad behavior”
Because they do.

“attacks people like E. Jean Carroll”
Carroll is nuts. It is not impossible that she is telling the truth, but it is less likely than that Covid came from the wet markets in Wuhan.
Regardless, we do not convict people of anything based on 30 year oold claims from people ith serious credibility problems and no evidence of anykind.

We do not do that – because if we did – you could convict anyone of anything.

“Letitia James”
James ran for office on a platform of “Get Trump”
She chose to play with the big dogs. She does not need your or anyone else’s protection.
But she can expect to have to prove her case – she has not.
She brought a garbage case and has succeeded at proving nothing more than that NYC courts are star chambers.

“Fani Willis”
Willis also chose to play with the big dogs, She does not need your or anyone else’s protection.
She started with no case, not because of here OWN corruption, she is going to spend the next couple of years fighting off jail.
Aparently there were problems similar to this but smaller with the Fulton County DA before.
She ran on an anticorruption platform – now she has black democrats in Fulton County pissed at her – She LIED.

Regardless, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Willis invited this on herself – quite stupidly. As do most of those who go after Trump.
I do not care if you go after Trump. But you MUST know that if you do you are going to have to conduct yourself with perfection – because massive resources will go into putting your life under a microscope.

There is no exception tot he rule of law that allows you to engage in corruption, because you are accusing someone else of corruption.
“Jack Smith”
Jack Smith is a light weight with an abysmal pretrump track record.
He is doing abysmally in FL, and despite having every possible advantage in DC he is actually doing worse.
Those of you on the left want the trial before the election. The legal realities of due process are that is not possible.
The Hunter Biden case – which is far simpler, has been drug out for years, and you think Smith can get to a courtroom like lightning with a piss poor case ? If all the stars aligned – he was unlikely to get this to a court room before the election – but his own efforts have increased Trump’s ability to delay.

“lies about Trump having some perceived “right” to keep classified documents”
Please actually read JW V NARA – That is LITERALLY what Judge ABJ – Says in the holding.
Ex President Bill Clinton had classified tapes in his sock drawer. ABJ ruled that Neither NARA nor the courts had ANY authority to retreive them. That should have been the end of this back in 2021.

“to “declassify” them by mental telepathy”
Presidents can not declassify by mental telepathy.
But absolutely any act involving a classified document that would be improper for an ordinary person, would be an act that declassifies by a president. Johnson accidentally disclosed the existance of the SR-71 in a press conference – only it was not the SR-71, it was the RS-71, but since the president called it the SR-71 – that became the name forever. Regardless it was HIGHLY classified.
Reagan deliberately revealed the entire Stealth program to the USSR in a press conference.
Obama disclosed nuclear secrets in a press conference.
Every president has declassified things merely by revealing them or moving them to an insecure location.

This is not a Trump thing. It is the constitutional power of the president.

“accusations of a “Biden Crime Family” despite not even one scintilla of evidence connecting Joe Biden to anything criminal”
Seriously ? The first revalations of the “biden Crime family” were in the NYT in 2015 and planted by Hillary in a successful effort to get Biden to sit on the bench on 2016. Trump did not make up claims that Biden was corrupt. The Biden family corruption goes back long before Trump descended the escallator.

“distortions of NY law about Trump’s fraudulent tax forms and loan documents”
No distortions – Fraud is deception that causes actual harm to others.
The social contract – which gives government its legitimacy – does not empire government to make laws willing nilly as it pleases.
If the NY law that James is using actually means what she claims – then it is unconstitutional.
Regardless this is a dead bang loser. People are not stupid. They do not want government confiscating their wealth because someone claims they lied. If you have ever owned a home or a car and sold it, you have with certainty violated the same law you claim Trump did.

“lies about E. Jean Carroll”
Back to Carroll again – we do not know what actually happened almost 30 years ago – that is why we have statues of limitations.
Nor can we find out what happened 30 years ago. Had Carroll made he claim immediately after the alleged event – the data and time and place would be estableshed. Carroll could have been examined and evidence gathered proving or disproving her claim. People at Bergdorfs could have been questioned to see if ANYTHING could be corroborated. Normally claims like Carrolls get dismissed at summary judgement.
Why ? First because of statute of limitations and then on due process grounds. When you can not provide the where and the when – you have denied the defendant the ability to disprove the claim. Trump can not prove where he was every minute of every day for 3-4 years.
No one can.
You are free to beleive Carroll if you wish – though she is not credible.
You are not free to use govenrment to confiscate the property of others without allowing them the right to defend themselves. Carrrols inability to provide evidence – even as little as a specific allegation deprives the defendant of due process and the ability to defend themselves.

“and endless lies about Trump’s alleged “accomplishments””
Trump’s accomplishements are a matter of record.
People are currently comparing Trump’s performance as president with Biden’s and Finding Trump a significantly better president.
That is not me, that is an enormous percent of the electorate. What is surprising is that despite the near universal view that Trump was a better president, There are still SOME peoplew who will vote for Biden.

“while ignoring and downplayng Biden’s actual accomplishments, of which there are many.”
While I have argued this with you frequently and compellingly – beyond that – supermajorities of the electorate see Biden as a failure.
And they are right. You have lost this one.

” You put out facts. They attack you.”
Because you don’t put out facts. On nearly all issues of consequence 70% of the electorate things Trump was a better president than Biden.
You can not fool all the people all the time.

“You ask for counter facts and get crickets. ”
YOur arguments have been factually and logically shredded many many times by me and others.

I am sorry that someone insulted your hygeine. I am not at all sorry that you are repeatedly called a liar – because you are.

“It’s stunning, really, that you can’t have a civil discourse in this country if it involves Trump without name-calling, but then, that’s what he does.”
Again long before Trump went down the escalator the left has been unable to have civil discourse.
Every republican presidential candidate in my lifetime has been called a nazi or hitler.
Arguments fromt he left are almost entirely insults and appeals to emotion – with lots of lies added in for good measure.

“He even insults former members of his administration–calling Nikki Haley “bird brain”.”
Politics is not bean bag. Trump does the same things Democrats do all the time, and have for decades – he is just better at it.
It is inappropriate. When those of you on the left stop the insults and appeals to emotion – then I will get upset with Trump for the same.

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