Initially Posted by CaptCF
Similar frustrations as you with regard to tradeoffs between safety, warmth, waterproofing (or lack thereof in most heated gear) and reliability. I in all probability averaged 1-2 repairs per season. Since then I believe they’ve stopped that follow and the guarantee is far more restricted. In searching for one thing extra akin to sportbike glove safety with warmth (the holy grail apparently), I attempted the Keis 502s about 4 years in the past since they regarded far more protecting than any of the three outdated pairs of Gerbings I had been via as much as that time. I ordered them from abroad and once I obtained them I discovered that the match, end and safety had been positively a step or three up from the Gerbing however they weren’t practically as scorching so I returned them. If I needed to guess I would say perhaps 30-50% much less warmth output. Possibly their newer merchandise are completely different. I additionally experimented with heated glove liners beneath touring and sport oriented gloves, however might by no means get a good match that did not compromise dexterity so finally went again to the Gerbing heated gloves.
Properly, at the least I am not the one one. 
Gloves and boots are actually troublesome; I am utilizing California Warmth gloves now; they’re comfy and heat, however.. If I’ve a fall.. Yeah, I’ve completely 0 confidence they might be a lot better than carrying a set of latex gloves for cover. My non-heated gloves are in a distinct world for cover, carbon in all of the influence areas, sliders, and many others. Boots are OK, I run heated insoles in my Daytonas, no fear about safety there, however that setup simply type of stinks; I can really feel the wire typically, snaking the wire via my kevlar pants was a nightmare (I took up stitching and made a pair of kevlar using denims particular for the aim with the wires run via the material; once more, it really works, however it’s janky). I am truly pleased with my jacket/base layer setup now.. Properly, largely, it is comfy and matches effectively, layers simply, would not appear like it was stolen from a child amassing retro baseball gear, however the pocket is not sufficiently big for the Gerbring distant management to suit simply (which is silly massive). I’ve a panel jack on my bike; even there there’s room for enchancment; breakaway cable (I constructed my very own), a keeper so the wire would not come out when stepping into extra aggressive using (once more, constructed my very own).
I am actually struggling to consider any piece of my heated setup that I believe is very well engineered/good. My Heat and Secure liner might be the closest to “good”, each different piece I’ve actual, basic issues with. And I, such as you, have an enormous assortment; California Warmth, Heat and Secure, Gerbring. I’ve 4 units of heated gloves!! 4 units, and I do not love any of them! I’ve 3 units of non-heated, and I LOVE 2 of them. I’ve 3 jackets, Klim, Dinaise and Scorpion; every has their particular person strengths, however all of them are actually, very nice items of substances; extra private desire and using temp/fashion than “that is rubbish, that’s nice”. I in all probability have 5-6 pairs of denims and a couple of units of textiles, all good to nice. I put on all of them relying on my journey and by no means this “that is rubbish”, even my cheaper denims are nonetheless within the rotation, they’re outdated and fewer protecting, however they’re fantastic for some rides or when the opposite stuff is soiled.
It is actually solely heated gear that I’ve a group of stuff I’ve purchased that’s, frankly, close to unusable it is so dangerous. Heated socks take the cake, who might put on these issues??? Feels such as you wrapped your foot in 12 gauge wire, duct taped it, then tried to place in your motorbike boots. A couple of pairs of gloves, none of which I’ve any confidence would defend me in a wreck, and a few so cumbersome and unwieldy that they’re once more, principally unusable for a bike.
Possibly I am going to give these Keis gloves a attempt. Want they’d native distribution. And I can already see the issue coming with them in the event that they’re not likely heat; refer again to the “particular person controls” a part of the rant. Gotta tie them to a different circuit so now my ft or physique will likely be on fireplace attempting to get my palms heat!?
It is a rant thread, I warned you guys within the title. 
Ranting commences!!
Oh, and for many who do not need to go into heated gear however wish to journey within the chilly, I can not advocate Bohn armor sufficient. It is SO far more comfy (and protecting) than placing all of the heft into your using pants and it is fairly heat, I haven’t got heated pants as a result of.. Properly, as a result of I detest most of my heated gear, however extra to the purpose, I actually do not want warmth on my pants with the Bohn winter tights and a heavier pair of using denims or textiles over them.
Edited so as to add… And I did not even get into reliability. That is a complete completely different rant thread. I have been via 2 distant controllers (truly 3, however one was my fault, dropped off the bike as a result of, on the time, no person made a very good holder for one).. On my third pair of insoles. The gloves that I “like” however would supply comparable safety to protecting my palms in talcum powder, 2nd pair. Jacket liners I’ve by no means worn out, however that is as a result of I maintain searching for one which is not terrible (We’ll see how lengthy my liner lasts, it is adequate that I will use it lots, I haven’t got excessive hopes, however not honest to throw stones at them simply but). Needed to exchange the panel jack on my bike as soon as (which is a WHOLE lot of enjoyable to route the wire contained in the fairings).
Examine that to my oldest (~10 years) Scorpion jacket and Covert Evo denims; they’re principally nonetheless good. Every part works, shoot, the jacket was a “weathered look” leather-based and it is held up improbable. And that is not some super-premium model, only a comparatively center of the street motorbike jacket. Even my first helmet, once more, round 10 years outdated now, seems and operates (it is a modular) identical to the day I purchased it and has ~50K miles on it. And under no circumstances a premium model, only a center of the street modular helmet.
